War of Words

Our Bible study on Wednesday night started with a question:

What’s the difference between happiness and joy?

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I thought I knew, but didn’t really. I had my own ideas, but was curious to know how others stacked them up. So, being the diligent linguist, I posted the same question to my Twitter and Facebook.

What is the difference between Happiness and Joy?Thu Oct 21 00:27:00 via PockeTwit

What I discovered shouldn’t be a shock, but it is instructive.

The Little Things

There’s no doubt that we are pleased by both, being happy, and being joyous. But when it comes to the little nuances, we’re in real trouble.

I did get some deep responses:

@ikepigott: joy is in a moment, happiness is in a lifetimeThu Oct 21 00:28:26 via TweetDeck

…and some fun responses:

@ikepigott A whole lotta consonantsThu Oct 21 00:27:18 via TweetDeck

(Don’t dismiss Liz — she’s essentially saying they’re functional equivalents.)

And I got a LOT of feedback from Facebook.

What it boiled down to was this:

  • The difference is a matter of duration
  • The difference is a matter of the source (internal/external)
  • The difference is a matter of intensity
  • The difference is a matter of intent

Each of the above “lines of definition” had more than one proponent… and in each case, there wasn’t agreement.

“Happiness lasts longer! No, wait, Joy does!”

“Joy is internal! No it’s not, Happiness is internal!”

No Joy in Muddleville

We seem to have a case where people realize the need for a different word, but don’t agree on what that difference is. And that happens a lot more often than you’d think.

I made a point of asking very early in the class what definitions we were going to stick with, because in the context of our lesson you could get into some pretty heated arguments about Joy and Happiness. People who in reality agree on a principle instead can get bogged down in arguments about each other’s character, upbringing and intelligence. (Even outside of Bible class.)

How does this happen?

Are we just lazy when it comes to the small matters? Did we just get lazy about the details?

It’s becoming more prevalent, and you see it even more in the online world. It’s a lot easier to be nasty to someone you don’t have to look at face-to-face. It’s also harder to parse the non-verbal nuances of communication, the winks and nods and inflections that are cues to additional understanding.

Most — and I do mean most — internet arguments would be settled if the participants agreed to the terms and what they meant.

Most — and I do mean most — contract torts could be avoided if the parties had to read the terms aloud before signing, and indicate they had a common understanding of the words on the page.

Most — and I do mean most — relationships could be improved by taking a step back from the budding argument, and asking some very simple questions. Like, do we want to be happy, or joyous? And which one is which?

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Comments

  1. Hmmm.  Thought provoking for sure.  In response to your question, “Are we just lazy when it comes to the small matters?”, No, we are “JUST LAZY.”  We complain about the TV and the remote when we used to have to actually get up each time we wanted to change one of our three stations.  And we wonder why we are a fat society.
    Between Joy and Happiness, I think they are different adjectives, and you can be both at the same time.  When I saw my first child born, I was overjoyed and happy.  Occasions and events seem to heighten joy; whereas, I think happiness comes from within.
    Finally, I have to ask:  “what are contract torts?”  From my training, it’s either a breach of contract or a tort, but not both unless it’s slander 🙂
    Good post.
    Jon

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  1. Ike Pigott says:

    The difference between Happiness and Joy is not found in the arguments over which is which | http://ike4.me/o155

  2. Alice says:

    RT @ikepigott: The difference between Happiness and Joy is not found in the arguments over which is which | http://ike4.me/o155

  3. Ike Pigott says:

    The biggest disagreements can emerge from the smallest nuance | http://ike4.me/o155

  4. Ike Pigott says:

    Little nuances with little agreement. http://ike4.me/o155

  5. ageekgirl says:

    RT @ikepigott: Little nuances with little agreement. http://ike4.me/o155

  6. Ike Pigott says:

    I don't think these words mean what we think they mean | http://ike4.me/o155

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  8. Ike Pigott says:

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